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Marathon Registered User regular
May 7
Dark Raven X wrote: »
Marathon wrote: »
Yeah, there’s plenty of justified criticism for the latest phase, but much of what came out was at least good and entertaining. Some low spots, but every phase had some duds.
I dunno, I felt like everything since 2020ish was duds with a few bright spots.
To each their own. For me, post 2020 the only movies I disliked were Eternals, Thor 4, and Quantumania. Most of the shows were decent, with Secret Invasion being the worst.
The rest of the post 2020 movies have been enjoyable for me. I also think the studio faced a real challenge with Covid. From changing schedules and having to adjust storylines in response, I think that gets forgotten sometimes.
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Doctor Detroit Not a doctor Tree townRegistered User regular
May 7
I've been thinking about the Guardians movies, and Rocket probably should have been snapped. Him spending 5 years with the Avengers and presumably based on Earth means he was probably called a Raccoon at least once. Which kinda dulls the impact of vol. 3.
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Undead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
May 7 edited May 7
Doesn't Quill call him a raccoon in the first movie?
Anywho, my issue is that Phase 4/5 have felt like more aimless phase 1/2s. Marvel's producing the content, but it's the same shit they've been making for ten years now, so it's never going to wow as much as it did then, and while they've been building up Kang as the big bad, individual phases have felt empty without some kind of Avengers capstone, so we're left with average fare that doesn't feel like it's building anything in the short-term.
They took something that was cool and kind of wild for the time, and just kept doing it over and over again thinking it would last forever.
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Gnizmo Registered User regular
May 7
Undead Scottsman wrote: »
Doesn't Quill call him a raccoon in the first movie?
Anywho, my issue is that Phase 4/5 have felt like more aimless phase 1/2s. Marvel's producing the content, but it's the same shit they've been making for ten years now, so it's never going to wow as much as it did then, and while they've been building up Kang as the big bad, individual phases have felt empty without some kind of Avengers capstone, so we're left with average fare that doesn't feel like it's building anything in the short-term.
They took something that was cool and kind of wild for the time, and just kept doing it over and over again thinking it would last forever.
I don't know if he was called it in the first movie, but I am pretty sure he did. I am absolutely certain he was called a racoon in Vol 2. It led to Starlord calling him a trash panda and everyone being confused by if that was better or worse.
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Dark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
May 7
I got the distinct impression Gunn barely factored the Avengers movies in when making Vol. 3, beyond the stuff he really fucking had to (like Gamora...)
The spaceship change and lack of Quill's helmet really jumped out on a rewatch as weird details unless you're coming straight from Vol. 2 where they lose the Milano and Quill's helmet is destroyed fighting Ego. They get the Benatar and a replacement helmet in the Avengers movies. And then Gunn comes back, new third spaceship - the Bowie - with no mention of the Benatar and Quill is back to having no helmet.
(He did tweet an explanation for continuity's sake - the Benatar was left in a garage on Knowhere and Quill forgot his helmet when Adam attacked)
Oh brilliant
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Undead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
May 7
The Benatar was Guardians 2 (and Guardians 1, technically; it's the ship that replaced the Milano after it got toasted in GotG1)
Apparently according to Gunn, the Benetar still exists and is in the vehicle bay of the Bowie.
Also I seem to remember Quill having a helmet in GotG3; I swear they make a point of showing it get damaged to set up the scene with him suffocating.
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Dark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
May 7
Nah, the Milano is in Vol. 2! The Nova Corps restore it at the end of the first movie, but Quill (and Rocket) crash it again at the start of Vol. 2. Rocket tries repairing it but they eventually abandon it and end that movie without a ship, hitching a ride on the big Ravager truck. The Benatar only ever appears in non-Gunn movies.
Quill's helmet is destroyed by Ego, setting up Yondu having to save him. It only appears after that in non-Gunn movies.
Oh brilliant
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Doctor Detroit Not a doctor Tree townRegistered User regular
May 7
Yeah, I guess I wasn’t clear, Rocket keeps objecting to being called a raccoon in the first 2 movies, then it apparently never comes up during the 5 years on Earth, and finally he accepts it in vol. 3.
But yeah, just go with the weird continuity. Alternatively, a wizard did it.
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RatherDashing89 Registered User regular
May 7
Didn't Rocket spend most of the snap in space anyway?
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Undead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
May 7
Doctor Detroit wrote: »
Yeah, I guess I wasn’t clear, Rocket keeps objecting to being called a raccoon in the first 2 movies, then it apparently never comes up during the 5 years on Earth, and finally he accepts it in vol. 3.
I'm not sure why seeing a Raccoon would matter. He accepts it in three because until then he has no reason to suspect it's anything but a coincidence. An insulting coincidence at that.
Like, there are 50 million alien races who look exactly like humans (including Xandarians and Kree) so one looking like a raccoon isn't unusual.
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Gnizmo Registered User regular
May 7
Doctor Detroit wrote: »
Yeah, I guess I wasn’t clear, Rocket keeps objecting to being called a raccoon in the first 2 movies, then it apparently never comes up during the 5 years on Earth, and finally he accepts it in vol. 3.
But yeah, just go with the weird continuity. Alternatively, a wizard did it.
If a walking, talking, sentient, genius racoon with enough advances weaponry to make the US army back down goes berserk when someone calls him a racoon then I am not going to call him one. Absolutely certainly not twice. It isn't a continuity problem. It is just not reusing a running gag in a very packed set of movies.
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Ninja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
May 7
Rocket definitely has to come back to Earth for Endgame, he lands with Nebula after they start trying to make a time machine. So aside from the one day he was on Earth for Infinity War, he could very well have spent the entire rest of the time far away from anybody who knows what a racoon is.
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Shadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
May 8
Gnizmo wrote: »
Doctor Detroit wrote: »
Yeah, I guess I wasn’t clear, Rocket keeps objecting to being called a raccoon in the first 2 movies, then it apparently never comes up during the 5 years on Earth, and finally he accepts it in vol. 3.
But yeah, just go with the weird continuity. Alternatively, a wizard did it.
If a walking, talking, sentient, genius racoon with enough advances weaponry to make the US army back down goes berserk when someone calls him a racoon then I am not going to call him one. Absolutely certainly not twice. It isn't a continuity problem. It is just not reusing a running gag in a very packed set of movies.
Dude has a name.
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AbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
May 8
Shadowfire wrote: »
Gnizmo wrote: »
Doctor Detroit wrote: »
Yeah, I guess I wasn’t clear, Rocket keeps objecting to being called a raccoon in the first 2 movies, then it apparently never comes up during the 5 years on Earth, and finally he accepts it in vol. 3.
But yeah, just go with the weird continuity. Alternatively, a wizard did it.
If a walking, talking, sentient, genius racoon with enough advances weaponry to make the US army back down goes berserk when someone calls him a racoon then I am not going to call him one. Absolutely certainly not twice. It isn't a continuity problem. It is just not reusing a running gag in a very packed set of movies.
Dude has a name.
Trash Panda?
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see317 Registered User regular
May 8
Sad fact, 100% of Earth bound raccoons were lost in The Snap.
Rocket never had a chance to see one in the wild.+1
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Doctor Detroit Not a doctor Tree townRegistered User regular
May 8
see317 wrote: »
Sad fact, 100% of Earth bound raccoons were lost in The Snap.
Rocket never had a chance to see one in the wild.I think you win a No-prize!
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RatherDashing89 Registered User regular
May 8
The first ecological disaster was all the raccoons vanishing at once.
The second was all of them coming back at once.
Dumpster minding its own business: "..."
Millions of raccoons: "On your left"+10
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Kyougu Registered User regular
May 8
Was watching Hulu last night and there was an ad for Captain America New World Order Happy Meals toys.
Even mentions the new Falcon.
Hilarious since that movie doesn't look like it's coming out for a good long while.
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reVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
May 8
Also they've changed the name.
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Shadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
May 8
Kyougu wrote: »
Was watching Hulu last night and there was an ad for Captain America New World Order Happy Meals toys.
Even mentions the new Falcon.
Hilarious since that movie doesn't look like it's coming out for a good long while.
Yeah the kiddo has gotten both versions of Falcon from the toys. Turns out toys have a looooooooooong production time.
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Forar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
May 8
Especially when you're producing them in the quantities that I imagine McDonald's toys are being made.
Which, entirely unrelated, reminds me of my favourite McDonalds toys from when I was a kid, small knockoff Transformers.
I also recall a friend selling off their McD's muppet babies toy collection for some serious cash a few years back.
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
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Undead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
May 8 edited May 8
Ah, it's my yearly reminder that I used to have a complete collection of the transforming dinosaur McDonalds toys, but threw them out in a fit of teenage "I'm a big boy now." bullshit.
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MichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
May 8
reVerse wrote: »
Also they've changed the name.
I'm shocked - not that shocked - that "new world order" made it out of a boardroom in the first place.
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nexuscrawler Registered User regular
May 9
Apparently some of the toys have already spoiled things about the new captain America movie
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Kane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
May 9
nexuscrawler wrote: »
Apparently some of the toys have already spoiled things about the new captain America movie
Ehhhh, Iron Man 3 toys "spoilers" were a lot of lies so I'm not too concerned.
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Munkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
May 9
Don’t forget the endgame lies
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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McRhyno Registered User regular
May 10
Looks like Ralph Ineson is Galactus, solid choice.
PSN: ImRyanBurgundy
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Undead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
May 10
Hopefully he keeps the yorkshire accent.
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Atomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
May 10
Shockingly low-key hire, though plenty talented
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EmperorSeth Registered User regular
May 10
I feel it's too early for Galactus.
You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
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Undead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
May 10 edited May 10
It's really just way late for the Fantastic Four.
Galactus first appeared in FF#48, a mere four years after the Marvel universe started. He's been part of the fabric of the marvel universe for almost as long as it's existed.
The MCU has been around four times as long as the comic universe was before Galactus showed up. Had the FF been there from the start, the lack of Galactus by this point would have been weird but because they got such a late start, everything is off.
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Dracomicron Registered User regular
May 10
Spoit wrote: »
It'd be like if they launched the mcu X-Men with a Dark Phoenix trilogy
Hey I just had an idea.... stop me if you've heard this one...
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Undead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
May 10 edited May 10
Spoit wrote: »
It's just kinda whatever, since all the other ff movies also went for Galactus. It'd be like if they launched the mcu X-Men with a Dark Phoenix trilogy
Wait, what?
He was in the second Fox film, but I don't think he was in the reboot. Never seen the Roger Corman film, though I should really track down a copy.
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LJDouglas Registered User regular
May 10
Undead Scottsman wrote: »
Spoit wrote: »
It's just kinda whatever, since all the other ff movies also went for Galactus. It'd be like if they launched the mcu X-Men with a Dark Phoenix trilogy
Wait, what?
He was in the second Fox film, but I don't think he was in the reboot. Never seen the Roger Corman film, though I should really track down a copy.
I can't remember the specifics, but at some point the FanFourstic script had the alternate dimension portal lead to Galactus and Doom was made into his herald. I can't remember if that was an early draft that got cut, or what they filmed then edited to remove mentioned of Galactus.
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Spoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
May 10
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Munkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
May 10
All the other FF movies went to Doom. Because he's fuckin Doom.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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SatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
May 10
Are there Doom casting rumors? If not I want to propose Jon Hamm.
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cloudeagle Registered User regular
May 10
John Malcovich has been cast in a mystery role. So - Doom? Annihilus? Willie Lumpkin?
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-Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
May 10
I could get behind John Malkovich Doom, aside from him being 70 and it being a role you’d want to stick around for a long while.
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